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Old Dec 29th, 2015, 02:57 am
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Hi susan,

Is it correct to say this:
'My watch broke down.'

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Old Dec 29th, 2015, 03:45 am
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Hmm.... depends. You might say it if it was a very hi-tech version, but for most ordinary "mechanical" versions My watch is broken would be more likely. As I said above, break down tends to be used with more complex machinery/technology - eg :

I have to repair our terrible photocopier, which breaks down about twice a week.
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Old Dec 31st, 2015, 02:23 am
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Hi susan,

Does the 'broken' in 'my watch is broken' mean to separate into two or more pieces? Or it just means 'isn't working' ?

Can I say
'There's something wrong with my watch'
or
'My watch is out of order'?

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Old Dec 31st, 2015, 05:10 am
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It just means "not working". And the other two would be fine.
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Old Jan 4th, 2016, 02:52 am
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Hi susan,

What else can 'to be broken' be applicable to when it means 'not working'?

Thank you very much.

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Old Jan 4th, 2016, 06:21 am
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Default Re: can't or won't?

Any simple tool or instrument which isn't working properly or at all can be described as "broken". For example :

- Don't take any notice of that thermometer - it's broken.
- I didn't make a cake because my food mixer is broken.
- I'm sorry it's so hot in here. The fan is broken.

The more complex the system or machine, the more likely it is that "break down" will be used instead.

- I had to walk up eight flights of stairs because the lift had broken down.
- I'd offer you a lift, but my car has broken down
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Old Jan 7th, 2016, 03:46 am
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Hi susan,

Can I use these expressions with toilets?

There's something wrong with the toilet.
The toilet is out of order.
The toilet isn't working.
The toilet is broken.
The toilet has broken down.

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