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Default Re: need not to do sth

Well yes - you can if you're able to time travel and find yourself in the 13th century. But I wouldn't try it in the 21st in the way you're talking about. You'd change the meaning. In that position "not" negates the infinitive - the sentence would mean "it's necessary that you don't do XXX" - which is rarely used. But compare eg :

I don't like getting up early.
I like not having to get up early.

To understand these sentence you have to chunk them differently depending on the scope of the negative particle :

I don't like / getting up early.
I like / not having to get up early.

With "need" I could see it happening in some sort of counselling or psychotherapy session:

I need you not to keep nagging me. = It's necessary for me that you stop nagging

But the meaning differs from

I don't need you to keep nagging me = It's not necessary for you to nag me.

which can also be expressed modally : You needn't keep nagging me.
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Re your questions about university expressions (always better to put different questions in their own threads with separate titles - it makes it easier for people to find them)...

regarding the "U" question - in English you'd just say "uni". And as for the hostel etc words, they differ mainly in what they are used to describe.

Hostel - any form of cheap, fairly basic accommodation for large numbers of people: youth hostels, student hostels etc. maybe accommodation for the homeless...
Hall - in B. Eng, short for "hall of residence" Used only for university/college accommodation.
Dormitory - in B.Eng at least, a large room where a lot of people sleep. Usually associated with boarding schools, possibly also accommodation for the homeless. I suspect in Am. Eng it's also used in a uni context.
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Thank you for your answers.

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